In this three chapters a lot of things happen. He arrives to a town where he settles with Mr Lehr and Miss Lehr. They are brothers and they recive him in a really good attitude knowing he is a priest, but they are not catholic. '' Oh, they won't bother me. But you had better be careful. You know offcourse, that it's against the law.''(164) This impresses me because they wont bother them but they are still risking themselves because something could happen. '' We don't hold with your Church, father. Too much luxury, it seems to me, while people starve.''(162) This at first impresses me but further on it is also shown that the leiutenant says the same thing so that is a feeling that people have towards our religion. The priest goes with Mr Lehr to take a bath and they start talking about church and religion and the priest tries to bring hium to his religion.
It impresses me that the people of the village are like the people has been during the whole book, everytime they see a priest they do anything to hear a mass or get their babies batized because they haven't seen a priest in years. '' There are so many of us father...there are many children to be baptized. There has not been a priest for three years''(166) I don't like the way he takes money out of them, I know he needed money but at the same time those people were very poor and he was doing something so people would get closer to God thats his job, not to take money out of poor people. After this, he starts talking to a man called Pedro, he offers him whiskey and they start talking about a lot of things and how he wanted to get to Las Casas. Later he says to him ''Drunkennes, adultery, uncleannes: he sat there tasting the brandy all the while, sitting on a rocking chair in a horse-box, not looking at the face of the one who knelt at his side.''(171) He does not care about anything anymore he does all the things mention before and he does not care whch I think that he is not a good priest anymore. ''Mortal sin...danger...self-control, as if those words meant anything at all.''(172)
Later, he starts talking with Mr Lehr and he is going to go and do the mass to the poeple in the village and he invites her'' I've sometimies wished that I could go tio church...Mr lehr wouldn't like it. He's very strict.''(175) I think it is weird the way that catholic religion is prohibided but still a lot of people practice it in secret and help themselves between each other, but it is also weird the way that Mr lehr acts and the interest toward the prohibed religion, which it makes sense because humans have the interest of things that are prohibed. Then the man that walked with him and was his companion for some time with the mule and then got sick he appeared. He was looking for the priest and told him there was a man that was really sick and that needded his help. '' The yankee, the one the police wanted... he robbed a bank..''(278) The priest decided to help him because I guess that something came to him and it was a way to get the way he wanted and with someone with him but he never trusted him because police knew that this man was with the priest before so it could be a tramp. '' Why do you think me such a fool? I know why you've come. You're the only one they've got who can recognize me...''(178) They got to the place where the yankee was, and the priest started to suspect that he was in some kind of tramp. He went in to se the Yankee for his confession but he was really mad. '' That bastard..what sort of a confession is this? I make a five hours' journey...and all I get out of you are evil words.''(187) Then he discovered that he was really in a tram. The leiutenant appeared and then he was reaslly confused because he remembered he had seen the priest before a couple of times and he confessed him that he lied. They started talking and in a way I think they started to meat things about the other. ''There are good priest and bad priests. It is just I am a bad priest.''(191) It is really good for him to accept that he was a bad priest because he made many sins, but in a way I think he was a good priest because he keept his reaigion until the end. The lieutenant talked to the priest and explained to him why they are doing all the do. ''The church was poor , the priest was poor, therefore everyone should sell all and give to the church...You're danger. That's why we kill you. I have nothing against you understand, as a man''(193) This impresses me because it is really weird him saying that so it confuses me , they are doing it for their people, for them being abused by the church in a way. They kept talking and each one showd they kind way. The lieutenant started blaming the priest for killing to inocent men because he did not want that, and the priest started telling him why thing became that way and why he became corrupt. They had a connection.
Prison!
Chapter two starts really weird because I got confused with the characters. Some person finds a beggar in the street and tells him he wants wine and the beggar tells him he will help him if he gives him money. This confuses me a little because at first I thought that the it was the priest, but I got confused because he was asking for wine not for brandy. ''You see I want to spend them on a drink, what sort of drink?...You mean spirits? Yes-and wine''(104) Then after this the beggar takes this person to a place to drink and other people get there. After that happens the priest is walking in the streets and he sees that they are following him so he starts running. ''Mother of God! He was a red shitr!''(115)In the way he sees Padre Jose. He was not really nice, his identity as a priest he changed it so nothing would happen to him and he had a wife. ''I'll shout if you don0t go''(118) In my opinion I think padre jose acted really bad because insted of helping him because in that moment they thought they were following him because of being a priest he made him go.Finally they caught him. He spend the night in jail with other people and confessed to them he was a priest. They all told him that they were not interested in giving him in and having the money they were giving the only thing was that they wanted to get out. He spend the night with those people and some wanted to confess. The next day he woke upo and they made him clean the cells and then they asked about him and he said he was ''Montez'' and they let him go because he was sent to jail because of the brandy and a crucifix. I think this is really ridiculous as I said before because people are in a point they are completly against religion and they want to destroy christianity completly.
Part 2 Chapter 1 (59-102)
Part two talks all the time of the priest. It starts talking about a man being in a mule and getting to a place he has not been in a really long time. What is first noticed is that this person is scaping from the police so it immediately gives us the idea that it is the whisky priest or the gringo. Some people receive him really well but with fear. ´´They are taking hostages now- from all villages where they think you’ve been. And if people don’t tell…somebody is shot… and then they take another hostage…’’(63) I think this is amazing the way that they want to excecute religion that they get to the point to look for this priest everywhere until they find him but in the same time killing a lot of people. People start discussing if they receive him or not because they could be risking their lives, but then they decide they will receive him. He is taken to Maria’s house, she is the one that accept’s him in her home and takes the risk. ‘’And Brigitta… is she ….well?’’(65) At first I thought this really suspicious because he asked a lot about her and Maria starts questioning him of why he did not recognize her and that she was standing there with everyone. She comes to him and he starts talking to her with some love and a nice way so that’s when I thought it was her daughter. At first I was not sure if that was the same priest- whiskey pries- or Padre Jose with that but my because I am getting confused with them but my doubts were cleared when Maria offered him a brandy. ‘’Tightening his grip upon the brandy bottle…’’(66) It’s weird the way that there are many priests that don’t keep the church rules or beliefs. This priest was Marias lover and that’s when they had Brigitta, but what impresses me the most is ‘’She was proud of having been the priest’s woman’’(68) That night passes and the next day , really early, he gives a mass to that people. When he is giving mass someone goes in there and tells him that the police are coming. He acts in a really natural way and prefers to finish the mas while the first thing that I would of done was run away. He does not have enough time to escape and Maria gives him something to eat so the breath of wine goes away. The lieutenant arrives, ‘’They filed sulley up and he questioned them, What’s your name? What do you do? Married? Which is your wife? Have you heard of this priest?’’(75) In my opinion they all act really natural and hide the lie. Marie tells to the lieutenant that that man (the priest) is his husband so they don’t suspect of him. He starts treathing them and telling them that if they don’t tell him anything they will take someone away. What I saw is they defend themselves a lot between them and they risk their life for someone only because they are against the things that were happening in the country in that moment. What I think that is good is that Marie knows that the priest is sinful and is not the perfect priest as the others think as she says, shes not that ignorant. Finally the lieutenant leaves and takes some kid called Miguel with him. No one has any reaction about it and he just leaves with him mule. Before that he talks to his daughter. ‘’ Everyone has a father… who works… you’re a priest’’(81) I don’t know if with this they have such a normal reaction of priest having daughters and sleeping with women or she acts natural because it’s her father. He leaves and wants to go to Carmen. In the way a man follows him and tells him it’s better going with company. The priest does not trust him at all, and all the time he is really trustful with him and tells him he knows that he is the priest but he wont give him away. ‘’ Won’t you say a prayer, father, before sleep?.. Why do you call me that?’’(90) They keep being a long way together, they stop to rest and the mestizo gets really sick. Finally he accepts to him he is a priest and they get closer and he trusts more in him. ‘’ The path divided- one way Carmen, the other to the west.’’(102) He separated their ways so that he could get to Carmen and get helped because of telling he saw the priest, and he went another path also for his security. What impresses me at the end is that I thought that he really wanted to help the priest and did not want the money but at the end of this chapter what is said is ‘’ Of course , he had every reason to be angry: he had lost seven hundred pesos.’’(103) I think this chapter was long, but at the same time it was good because it gives more detailed information about the priest, his personal life, and what he feels.
Demostrative, forensic or declamative
PHOENIX, Oct. 4 — In the aftermath of Carol Anne Gotbaum’s death in police custody at the airport here, her family has hired a high-powered Phoenix lawyer who has gone after police wrongdoing in the past, a nationally renowned forensic pathologist and a former journalist turned private investigator, all of whom are helping in an attack on the official police account of the events leading to the death of a woman who married into the powerful New York family.
Yesterday as Mrs. Gotbaum’s husband, Noah, came here to collect his wife’s body from a mortuary, the family’s attorney, Michael C. Manning, stayed on the attack, contradicting pivotal points in the police’s version of last Friday’s incident, including new details about an account by a witness who he says claimed that Mrs. Gotbaum may have been unconscious before she even got to a police holding area.
“She was listless, unconscious to nearly unconscious,” Mr. Manning said, recalling what he was told by an airline employee whose name he was still withholding but planned to eventually release to the police. Once the employee is ready to be identified, Manning said: “I want Phoenix police to interview this witness. This is important.”
The Phoenix police have fired right back yesterday, holding a press conference to clarify information released Wednesday in a detailed e-mail to the news media. That e-mail maintained the department’s original story that Mrs. Gotbaum struggled with officers all the way to the detention facility and was later found dead in the holding room with the chain of her shackle across her neck.
The account also gave details of a harrowing attempt by police to resuscitate Mrs. Gotbaum, saying that she vomited into the mouth of an officer who was giving her mouth-to-mouth, and that the officer then vomited himself, but continued attempting to save her life.
“The purpose of this update is to address some incorrect, inaccurate and false information that has been given to the media and reported to the public,” said the e-mail, which was signed by Sgt. Andy Hill.
Sergeant Hill said the police planned to release a copy of the surveillance tape that he said would verify the police account.
“We certainly want to see the evidence behind those statements,” Mr. Manning said, referring to Sergeant Hill’s account. “The version does differ in some important respects from what independent witnesses have told us.”
The Gotbaums have hired Cyril H. Wecht, who performed an autopsy Tuesday that was independent of the one performed by the Maricopa County medical examiner a day earlier. Dr. Wecht, a well-known forensic pathologist based in the Pittsburgh, has worked a number of high-profile cases. He has performed autopsies on Vincent W. Foster Jr., the White House lawyer who killed himself in 1993, and the Anna Nicole Smith’s son, Daniel.
In the continuing battle with the Phoenix authorities, Mr. Manning expressed disappointment yesterday that the medical examiner’s offices withheld Mrs. Gotbaum’s brain, throat and heart from Mr. Wecht.
The Gotbaums are also receiving help from Howard Rubenstein, a Manhattan public relations expert who has represented the likes of the Yankees owner George Steinbrenner and who is a friend of extended members of the Gotbaum family, Mr. Manning said. Mr. Rubenstein made several statements to news media outlets in support of the Gotbaums though he is not acting in an official capacity.
Yesterday, Noah Gotbaum, flanked by a lawyer and family friends, whisked past several television cameras and reporters, and into a mortuary here, where his wife’s body was being held. Mr. Gotbaum curled his lips and fought back tears after he hopped out of a gray sport-utility vehicle and walked through the front door.
Judd Slivka, an investigator brought on by Mr. Manning, briefly stepped outside to hand reporters a statement that the family was asking for privacy. Mr. Gotbaum and his companions left a short time later without comment.
He was on his way back to New York for Sunday’s memorial service for his wife. It appears that he is leaving the battling, and talking, up to his high-profile representatives.
“We want to see more evidence before we’re satisfied nothing took place here that was inappropriate,” Mr. Manning said.
In my opinion
what I understood in class as Mr Gunther explained to us because you left, was that demostrative is that demostrates something which is the part in blue, but he other things are forensic because it relates to death and the whole article talks about that.
Yesterday as Mrs. Gotbaum’s husband, Noah, came here to collect his wife’s body from a mortuary, the family’s attorney, Michael C. Manning, stayed on the attack, contradicting pivotal points in the police’s version of last Friday’s incident, including new details about an account by a witness who he says claimed that Mrs. Gotbaum may have been unconscious before she even got to a police holding area.
“She was listless, unconscious to nearly unconscious,” Mr. Manning said, recalling what he was told by an airline employee whose name he was still withholding but planned to eventually release to the police. Once the employee is ready to be identified, Manning said: “I want Phoenix police to interview this witness. This is important.”
The Phoenix police have fired right back yesterday, holding a press conference to clarify information released Wednesday in a detailed e-mail to the news media. That e-mail maintained the department’s original story that Mrs. Gotbaum struggled with officers all the way to the detention facility and was later found dead in the holding room with the chain of her shackle across her neck.
The account also gave details of a harrowing attempt by police to resuscitate Mrs. Gotbaum, saying that she vomited into the mouth of an officer who was giving her mouth-to-mouth, and that the officer then vomited himself, but continued attempting to save her life.
“The purpose of this update is to address some incorrect, inaccurate and false information that has been given to the media and reported to the public,” said the e-mail, which was signed by Sgt. Andy Hill.
Sergeant Hill said the police planned to release a copy of the surveillance tape that he said would verify the police account.
“We certainly want to see the evidence behind those statements,” Mr. Manning said, referring to Sergeant Hill’s account. “The version does differ in some important respects from what independent witnesses have told us.”
The Gotbaums have hired Cyril H. Wecht, who performed an autopsy Tuesday that was independent of the one performed by the Maricopa County medical examiner a day earlier. Dr. Wecht, a well-known forensic pathologist based in the Pittsburgh, has worked a number of high-profile cases. He has performed autopsies on Vincent W. Foster Jr., the White House lawyer who killed himself in 1993, and the Anna Nicole Smith’s son, Daniel.
In the continuing battle with the Phoenix authorities, Mr. Manning expressed disappointment yesterday that the medical examiner’s offices withheld Mrs. Gotbaum’s brain, throat and heart from Mr. Wecht.
The Gotbaums are also receiving help from Howard Rubenstein, a Manhattan public relations expert who has represented the likes of the Yankees owner George Steinbrenner and who is a friend of extended members of the Gotbaum family, Mr. Manning said. Mr. Rubenstein made several statements to news media outlets in support of the Gotbaums though he is not acting in an official capacity.
Yesterday, Noah Gotbaum, flanked by a lawyer and family friends, whisked past several television cameras and reporters, and into a mortuary here, where his wife’s body was being held. Mr. Gotbaum curled his lips and fought back tears after he hopped out of a gray sport-utility vehicle and walked through the front door.
Judd Slivka, an investigator brought on by Mr. Manning, briefly stepped outside to hand reporters a statement that the family was asking for privacy. Mr. Gotbaum and his companions left a short time later without comment.
He was on his way back to New York for Sunday’s memorial service for his wife. It appears that he is leaving the battling, and talking, up to his high-profile representatives.
“We want to see more evidence before we’re satisfied nothing took place here that was inappropriate,” Mr. Manning said.
In my opinion
what I understood in class as Mr Gunther explained to us because you left, was that demostrative is that demostrates something which is the part in blue, but he other things are forensic because it relates to death and the whole article talks about that.
The Bystanders
The fourth chapter starts talking about Mr Tench and him writting a letter to him mom. I thinks is amazing the way Mr Tench let himself out of the world completly when he went to live to Mexico...'' But she had probably forgotten his handwritting by this time''(46) This quote also gives us and idea that he has a bad relationship with his mom and she does not now he is still alive. As I said before in a blog, Mr Tench can't leave Mexico because of the peso problem. ''He had meant to leave six years ago, but the peso dropped with a revolution, and so he had come south.''(46) Then it changes to a completly diffrent scene. As I said before, people in this book avoid religion, do not belive in it anymore or they are just corrupt. It starts talking about Padre Jose being in the cementary, which makes me confuses because I am not sure Padre Jose is the same as the whiskey priest. When Padre Jose was in the cementary , there was a family at the same time buring a child, and they asked him to give a prayer but he rejected. “Leave me alone” He said. “I´m unworthy. Can´t you see?-I am a coward”(P.49) Then after this there is a mom reading the Bible to his kids. They ask her Mother” the child said, “do you believe there´s a God?” The question scared Mrs.Fellows.”(53) This is what I've been saying before that impresses me the reaction of people towards religion. There is also another part that impresses me that is the lieutanant having permission to kill a priest. This is and example of what I gave in the video. Christian people and proests where being killed in Turkey because of their religion. He is stopped by a kid and this kid attacks him because he thinks that he is a gringo and I could see it as he thought he was the priest. It also impresses me the way that after the kid throws a bottle the lieuranant starts giving him lessons that he should not because he is really small.. He gives him his gun and tells him is okay if he holds it. In my opinion this is really bad because he is just a kid and they are giving him the impression that carrying a gun a killing is really normal and natural.
Situation vs. religion
I added this video because it relates to The Power and Glory. This book talks about how people are againts christianity or just don't belive anymore in God because of the situation they are living. The video talks about living in Turkey and priests being killed and christian community trying to survive. This example is shown in the book as well because they are against the priest. ''Altogether they have shot about five priests- two or three had escaped.''(25)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJs97daH068
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJs97daH068
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